Friday, April 4, 2008

Oldest European

Why are scientists so devoid of common sense?
Here we've got some beakers saying that because they've found a homo antecedent 900,000 years old in Western Europe, that he must not be our ancestor.
However, earlier reports claimed that antecedent's face is closer to ours than any other species of hominid, even heidelbergensis and neanderthal
They are saying that since he's so old, he could have been Neanderthals ancestor but not ours.
Remember that Neanderthal was born only 150,000 years before we were, and that we're talking a million years of time here, or more. Hmmm...homo erectus is 2 million years old...does that mean we couldn't have evolved from them? I guess we did come from outer space!
Sigh...
And what about Heidelberg, huh? The previous theory was that Heidelberg seperated into Neanderthal and Modern. Are they gonna try to sweep that under the rug with "evolutionary dead end" or try to say H. is the sole progenitor of HSS? Better not do that- Heidelberg was in Europe and they want the origin of mankind to be in Africa! In any case, it would be really bad to have it in Europe.

It's simple. Hybrid-origin Multiregionalism, people. Since every science but genetics says so with preponderous amounts of evidence, it is time to re-evaluate how accurate our genetic tools are and how we are choosing to interpret their data.


I just read Stan gooch and he's the closest to right I've seen, except
I'd change his Neanderthal 1 to Heidelberg and Sons, (Heidelberg,
Idaltu, Neanderthal, Classic Neanderthal, etc) and his Neanderthal 2
to Erectus and Sons. His Northern Indian cro-magnon ancestors I'd
instead call Antecessor and Sons. And then I'd like to propose that
all of the above could have very easilly been hybrids; not just us.
Hybrids of hybrids of hybrids. Because erectus was shagging ergaster was banging habilis was balling antecessor, and they might have even invited rudolphensis on full moon threesome night. We are a species that likes to do other species, and not always just primates. It's gonna happen, and every once and a while it's gonna work. What's more we're pack animals; nomadic, sometimes even herding. We've been migrating out of Africa along the coast to Sundaland and then getting flooded out and sent back to Africa for millions of years, and to europe and back for almost as long do to the shifting glaciers. Europe and Sundaland were and are natural evolutionary machines. And somewhere there was a bottleneck, and some
other as of yet unknown anomalies, that make it hard for us to figure
out the genetic trail. If our mother is only 180,000 years old, then she had at least a little of all of the above in her.


Here's the article:


Humans in Europe At 1.2 mya Options


An analysis of an ancient jaw and teeth has confirmed that humans reached Western
Europe well over a million years ago, far earlier than previously thought.


The prehistoric fossils were excavated last June at Atapuerca in northern Spain,
along with stone tools used for butchering meat.
...
The individual has been labeled a Homo antecessor—a species first named in 1997
based on other human fossils found at Atapuerca. The sex isn't known, but the new
human was likely aged between 30 and 40 at the time of death.


The new findings suggest that H. antecessor was most probably unique to Europe,
the researchers say.
...
For example, 32 stone flints also excavated from the cave date to the same age as
the fossils, according to dig co-director José Maria Bermúdez de Castro of the
National Research Center on Human Evolution in Burgos, Spain.


The flints include simple tools that were likely used by the early humans to hack
up mammal carcasses and get at bone marrow, as evidenced by cut marks found on
nearby limb bones belonging to unidentified herbivores.


"They used the stone tools to take meat off animals, cut the muscles, and break
their bones," Bermúdez de Castro said. "The bones show the marks of these
implements."


Remains of other close-by animals—including rhinoceroses, deer, bison, lynx, wolves,
and bears—were also used to help date the fossils, the study said.


"Since we now know those fossils date to 900,000 [years ago], the time difference
is not great, and, provisionally at least, I think it's logical to assign the
mandible to Homo antecessor," Bermúdez de Castro said.
...
The Spanish-led team adds that the new fossil human likely marks the beginnings of
a native European species represented by the younger finds at Atapuerca.


"We see that these fossils are different from other populations in Asia or in
Africa," Bermúdez de Castro said.


"We think that when populations come to an extreme part of a continent, or to an
island, a process of speciation usually occurs," he added. "This is very normal in
the animal world."


The Atapuerca researchers in 1997 had suggested Homo antecessor as a possible
ancestor of modern humans. But the age of the new fossil find makes this theory
less likely, Bermúdez de Castro admitted.


"Homo antecessor may be very, very old in Europe, and modern humans came from
Africa," he said, making the previous theory "difficult to support."


More likely, Homo antecessor gave rise to Neandertals (often spelled Neanderthals)
in Europe, he said, adding, "it's a good hypothesis to test in the future."

Humans in Europe At 1.2 mya Options
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